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well with the ufo conspiracies of course

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we were seeing men in black and cia

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conspiracies

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in every corner and whatever

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was happening i think all of those of us

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who were involved in ufo research at the

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someone who seemed to be

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sometimes acting on behalf

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of the government and sometimes they

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really did seem to be

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extraterrestrials so again some of this

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perhaps was imagination some of it was

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paranoia

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and then the government air force didn't

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do any favor at all

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by i think in some cases actually

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if not silencing certainly obfuscating

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would you say that that the government

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used the ufo's this information

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involving the offers to mislead the

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public and ufo researchers

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you know after all these years i'm not

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really certain

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i think in some cases some

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investigations were done in a very

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clumsy and heavy-handed way

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and that fed the paranoia at the time

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there actually was a deliberate effort

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to make it appear deliberately

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as though extraterrestrials were

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invading us

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i think when i went through the project

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blue book files and did project blue

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in triplicate that were very interesting

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it demonstrated clearly that there were

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members of the air force

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sincerely believed that we were being

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invaded by extraterrestrials

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there were others then that scoffed

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openly at this now

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if it was as some people suggest that

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the government deliberately

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fed the idea of extraterrestrials or if

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the air force or the investigators the

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government whatever you want to say

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was genuinely divided in their

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interpretation of the phenomena

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it spread like wildfire among the

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civilian investigators

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and as i said i don't think there were

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that we might have our telephone lines

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tapped

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that people were watching us people were

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spying on us and sometimes we had

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good evidence that they were

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what would be the ultimate reason for

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the government to mislead

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people as far as what is the hidden in

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yeah that's the big then back in the 50s

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and 60s we were convinced

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that of course they felt that we simply

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ready for this we couldn't our entire

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culture would collapse our politics our

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religion

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and as far-fetched as that seems

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that actually probably would be a very

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good reason

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uh i think that as i have

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explored and grown in this field i see

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the great masses of people i think would

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in spite of movies like et

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movies like independence day that

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display this and

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and in independence day of course we

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rally and we defeat the invaders

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i think we really know deep inside that

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a culture that was capable of

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extraterrestrial

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probably excuse me interplanetary flight

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and if they were the slightest bit

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hostile to us

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i think it would happen almost

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immediately so that's why

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and the cute cuddlies but then the

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when the berlin wall collapsed

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i don't know if you remember but in

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telephone conversation you said then

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now we're going to switch to worrying

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and that's when a lot of these movies

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that indicated once again not the big

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monsters that we had in the 50s

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but the more subtle type of invasion

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that even the abduction phenomena

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the classic as we were talking before

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with invasion

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now when the vikings were batting down

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the doors of rome i mean was to say we

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because they're going to come in and

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they're going to rape our women

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they're going to subvert our culture

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things will never be the same

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sexually with us they're

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they're implanting uh they're implanting

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embryos and fetuses and and the emphasis

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is on sex which i think is extraordinary

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multi-dimensional beings

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and this phenomena has been going on for

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centuries i think it's the same as the

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fairy lore what is the fairy myth

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they take us to another world there's

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missing time

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and again what they're primarily

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in the sexual aspect and they even

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children with is the changing child is

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put into the place

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on the aspect of myth that is an age old

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that rallies you in defense of your own

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kind your own species

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your own nationality your own culture in

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this case your own

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world culture or it is

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an actual multi-dimensional

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extraterrestrial if you will species

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that really

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is slowly inculcating itself

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in breeding itself into our own species

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but then maybe that's how we began maybe

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this began with neanderthal or pro-mania

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and this is how the species progresses

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all a little bit from out there and

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a little bit we feel the longing and we

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feel the binding with this strange

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force that seems at once to be

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interacting with us interbreeding with

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us and then trying to take

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if i may say that in clone masters of

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for interlight press you that was

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you know are reptilian and change and

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members of our political uh

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establishment

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are sacrificing babies and eating

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children and so forth

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george bush i i think there there is a

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of of truth in the idea that we are

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feathered serpent caught the koala and

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the culture bearers of nearly

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every civilization has been reptilian

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well we're here on clear lake

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in iowa with sherry stagger

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all bundled up and diane tessman

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whose blonde hair shows through and the

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color meter is really going off the

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scale with this green

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but this is this is actually

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this is actually the famous clear lake

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frozen over now yeah no we're frozen

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1950 buddy holly

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richie valance and the big bopper took

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off from the surf ballroom which still

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exists here in this town and they got

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sad and tragic moment in the history of

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there we go and brad has just shown up

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weekend of videotaping interviews and

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freezing our nubs off just for you

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in the warm states so let's go and

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venture out on the ice

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well i've heard brad that you can walk

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morning i don't know it's pretty cold

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i i believe you could sing

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here we go i should be walking backwards

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well i'll follow you guys

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tomorrowland well we'll follow friend

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i'm trying to set aside bread up uh to

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for those of you out there who haven't

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seen our mr creepo videos

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they're slightly different than our

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and the new age products and i

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right right we've lost

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okay here we go all right hey see i'm

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when you have to be your own producer

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cameraman director and interviewer

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this is what you get but sherry's taking

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over the health

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so now i'm gonna go out on the ice

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so momentarily whoa okay we're here in

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the back of brad

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and sherry hansen's staggers limousine

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headed to look for the memorial site

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i believe you would call it near clear

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lake iowa where

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richie valance the big bopper and buddy

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holly went down in the

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famous plane crash back on february 3rd

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and sherry is up there looking at the

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map hold up the lap here trying to

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figure

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it's kind of dark in here so you can't

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see the map really too

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okay oh i have a contribution to make

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when i lived in ireland

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the irish were singing as they drank all

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night they were singing

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bye bye miss american pie and they knew

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buddy holly and and so their the fame of

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the crash spread around the world

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and they're singing about it in in

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waterford ireland as we speak

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well then we should go by the surf

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frozen over today

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i'm getting all kinds of warning lights

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here if buddy holly were alive today

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he'd be

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flirting flirting flirting with you at

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the bar

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maybe there's something that he said

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maybe there's something to be said about

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dying in your prime there probably is

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my goodness aging is not persistent

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no aging is a pitch

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yeah well the four of us have managed to

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hold on to oh yes

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we haven't discovered this okay now

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we're in buddy holly place

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yeah there's buddy holly place and we're

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here it comes world's famous

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well it might be actually the the oldest

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uh continuously run um but didn't it

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just burn down

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no i don't think so it didn't burn down

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recently

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no oh i must have dreamed that maybe

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well i i think there again without

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trading on toes

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i think we can see here again the symbol

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of christianity is a fish

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i i think we have that relationship

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between

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the the water aspect of the water that

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we may have come from the sea

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that we may have come that our culture

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bearers came from the sea

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via the stars we have this and this the

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serpent that moses

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extends in the desert uh the the

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idea of the serpent

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as a teacher as an instructor

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is is multicultural

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and the interesting thing about it is

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that

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you know an actual snake itself poor

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creature

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is is really very helpless and not that

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intelligent and

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they can't hear very well they sense

335
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with their tongue

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so what what is it that a serpent would

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be wise that a serpent would be teacher

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but it may be someone who appeared as a

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serpent or as a reptilian being that

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came from the stars or came from

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somewhere else another dimension another

342
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time

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spectrum and interacted with with us

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throughout our civilization

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many of the the great literature of

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the ages have talked about these hippie

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races

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or these underground uh world you think

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that clues have been supplied to

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mankind from time to time it's

351
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fascinating again how

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multicultural the idea of a species

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beneath the surface of the earth

354
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now some people can theorize that that

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represents the hidden

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self the unconscious the hidden self

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and the layers of our intellect

358
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and that is the emotional self but again

359
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there has to be some reason why

360
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from the earliest time we have looked

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to creatures under the earth

362
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and from the stars now again as whatever

363
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credence you want to put in some of the

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contact t literature and some of the

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sightings

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not contact teas those who regularly

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report them but people who made

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sightings of course of ufos coming from

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from within the earth coming from within

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the sea

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think is it is a natural hiding place

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but the idea you know agartha and

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the uh the the ancient uh serpent people

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the the naga uh of india

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i mean always this is a serpentine race

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that lives

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but yet very handsome a very uh

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intelligent that appears below the

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surface and thrives below the surface of

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our earth

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again whether it's the symbol for the

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inner self or the self that can be

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revealed

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or again an actual species

385
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that we've been interacting with the

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wise ones from the caves

387
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well why doesn't orthodox

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about this about these other races that

389
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have co-existed

390
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well i think we are learning more and

391
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more about

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other races other species and i'm

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fascinated by

394
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:00,240
the early history of humankind

395
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we've always believed that we've

396
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progressed in an orderly kind of

397
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ladder situation and now anthropologists

398
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:10,799
suggest that there may have been as many

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as seven hominid species coexisting on

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earth at the same time

401
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in which it appears homo sapiens our

402
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,600
particular species emerge triumphant

403
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,720
well did we or did we absorb these other

404
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,840
species or races if you choose to use

405
00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:29,440
that word

406
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why don't the religions teach about them

407
00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:33,360
well in fact

408
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many of them do i mean we find this in

409
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the hindu

410
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:39,200
religion we we talk about the great

411
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battles about the vamanas the flying

412
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machines

413
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the people from many different levels of

414
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of uh what shall we say existence

415
00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:53,750
how about any any how about anything how

416
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,120
about how about any like

417
00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:57,520
famous cases we might have done heard it

418
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,600
no but just kind of steady saying yeah

419
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:01,280
yeah that's what this guy he had a car

420
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:03,360
he was [\h__\h] hunting one night

421
00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:05,440
another night he was on patrol and a

422
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:06,640
blue light

423
00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:09,840
open spaces too those are the stories

424
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:10,720
you get

425
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he had his neighbors come over and tell

426
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,000
me about it

427
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:22,320
when my dad was alive you know a farmer

428
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:24,320
said boy it comes around so regularly

429
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:24,960
you can set

430
00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:28,640
your watch by my dad

431
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:31,919
you know he was good iowa farmer

432
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:35,039
norwegian lutheran right if you can't

433
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,799
see it or taste it or touch it

434
00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:38,480
yeah that's why i'm kind of shocked at

435
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:40,000
that and uh

436
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,200
boy when they came someone gave them

437
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:44,960
one of the police officers gave him some

438
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,720
binoculars and i thought i was afraid

439
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:48,480
he's going to give himself black eyes

440
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:48,720
and

441
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:53,520
drove home that night he said well

442
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,840
you know i've never talked about it but

443
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:56,640
i've always

444
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,549
he says supposedly when i was seven

445
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:06,720
that on the farm near singapore that a

446
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:07,840
crab

447
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:11,039
came down and i first encountered tybus

448
00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:11,679
i guess

449
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:15,679
or or beings and i'm really

450
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,840
myself every day kind of skeptical

451
00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:18,799
because the

452
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:22,240
area is so frozen chosen lutheran that

453
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,360
you figure

454
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:25,120
well there's never been a spaceship with

455
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:26,640
it

456
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:38,630
we're we're following the map that

457
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,559
sherry has in her hands looking for the

458
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,320
memorial site

459
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:44,480
and we're going past some grain bins but

460
00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,600
we've been going great

461
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:47,280
past grain beds for the last half an

462
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:55,909
uh i i think brad i think this is

463
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:03,350
whoops okay

464
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:23,270
well great yard

465
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:25,590
boom the hood of your car comes down a

466
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:27,760
foot or something

467
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,200
all right i don't know to go out and

468
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,200
walk in that field i think with me

469
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,039
yeah that doesn't really yeah who's

470
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,360
gonna do that

471
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:38,720
oh memorial half mile we have to walk

472
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:41,280
that way how far does your zoom work

473
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:44,240
maybe the zoom well that depends on what

474
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,360
whether it's you know like

475
00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:47,200
when you say small memorial or what does

476
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,960
that mean a head start you know a little

477
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:50,400
stone that's in the ground and

478
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,919
flat then you won't find it you don't

479
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,520
even have a picture of it we've seen

480
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:55,360
pictures of it of course every time they

481
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,440
do the budding hallways

482
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:59,440
yeah they do make a truck on here you

483
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:00,559
know this is a car

484
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:03,600
i mean this is the friends for all

485
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,880
right i'll be happy to

486
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:08,720
hand you a lens in my camera you can go

487
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:09,840
out there you know there's another

488
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:10,480
fencer

489
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:13,840
just walk along the fence is fitzrolls

490
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:16,960
yeah so well some people

491
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,520
have suggested some conspiracy theorists

492
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,039
have suggested that

493
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,039
the technology that we see in the sky

494
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:25,200
these ufos are not really interplanetary

495
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:26,480
that there has been

496
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:29,919
an alternative energy form

497
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:33,919
either teleportation or anti-gravity

498
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:36,000
that the new world order or secret

499
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,520
branches of our own

500
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,120
government have been working on over the

501
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:41,440
years and they try to hide that

502
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:42,960
with mysterious lights in the sky and

503
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:44,799
making the public think that we're being

504
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,760
visited by

505
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,600
uh extraterrestrials yeah i think you

506
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:49,919
have to give credence to that

507
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,279
possibility and i think uh here again

508
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:55,840
you can build a strong case for us

509
00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:59,360
conspiracy of using lights in the skies

510
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:01,840
to mass technology i mean we know with

511
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:02,559
the

512
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,440
have been perfected

513
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:09,760
that people saw those people got

514
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:10,720
glimpses of them

515
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:13,840
and and the air force was more than

516
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:14,640
happy

517
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,360
to say well then and help spread the

518
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:18,000
rumor that

519
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,159
it was ufos that they've come from

520
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:21,840
another world to mask what they were

521
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:22,880
doing

522
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:26,400
the time travel technology again from

523
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:30,080
all we understand about physics today

524
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:33,919
is that it is currently impossible

525
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,400
uh for more than a few seconds now

526
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:37,440
mentally

527
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,400
and i think uh in the spirit i think

528
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:42,960
time travel happens a great deal

529
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,520
uh numerous accounts of people who have

530
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,960
seen and witnessed

531
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:49,120
a scene from the past and then be able

532
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:50,559
to document it

533
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,440
uh some cases battles have been seen and

534
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:55,279
and people have had the presence of mind

535
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,200
to write down the sequence and then

536
00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:59,279
matched it against the actual battle and

537
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:01,039
it was precise

538
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:02,559
so these things are happening there are

539
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,039
classic paranormal cases of

540
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,600
viewing the past now viewing the future

541
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:09,440
i think people have had those visions

542
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,400
too and they've

543
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,559
probably some of our great inventors and

544
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:14,720
geniuses have translated their visions

545
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:15,760
of the future

546
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,080
into something that we could use in

547
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:19,760
contemporary times

548
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:23,200
as far as a conspiracy of this regard

549
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,159
i i think we have to give certain

550
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:28,080
credence to

551
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:31,679
a conspiracy that was very individual

552
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,159
i mean among certain alchemists among

553
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:35,919
certain people who had

554
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:39,120
perfected a technology and for

555
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:42,080
various reasons wanted to keep it quiet

556
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,600
wanted to keep it secret

557
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,760
so they wouldn't be stolen from them or

558
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,080
that it wouldn't be misused some

559
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,480
uh people of technology believe it or

560
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:52,559
not do have a conscience

561
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:55,760
and are fearful that some inventions

562
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:56,000
will

563
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,799
fall into the wrong hands so i think

564
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:59,840
perhaps

565
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,080
there have been small groups of people

566
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:04,960
that have kept technological advances

567
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:07,600
secret and private and used it for their

568
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:08,840
own

569
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,760
welfare what what do you see

570
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,240
as the positive things that people

571
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:16,480
should be looking for in the near future

572
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,799
and what are some of the negative things

573
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:20,559
that might be

574
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,320
bearing down on us as a civilization

575
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:27,360
well i've i'm just amazed because

576
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uh being a cockeyed optimist from youth

577
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:34,880
i somehow saw the year 2000 as

578
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:37,360
that there would be no prejudice there

579
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:38,960
would be no

580
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,559
ethnic cleansings now in the year 2000

581
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:47,919
in the present time

582
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:51,679
we see the forces of fundamentalism and

583
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:55,760
and uh perpetuations of old

584
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:57,600
traditions and customs that should have

585
00:27:00,950 --> 00:27:00,080
been outmoded long ago in terms of our

586
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:00,960
thinking

587
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,080
exclusive

588
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:06,400
that they are better than other people i

589
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:09,200
i'm just amazed that this continues so

590
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:12,559
what we have to focus in the future

591
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:15,679
is education we have to go

592
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:19,279
back to a very basic form of

593
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:22,399
people understanding philosophy people

594
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,799
really reading people not just going to

595
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,360
the computer and playing computer games

596
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:30,080
we have to recognize our humanity we

597
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:31,279
have to recognize

598
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,000
that

599
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:39,279
if we are going to survive as a species

600
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,399
it will be because of our cooperation

601
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:44,399
because of our recognizing and

602
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,480
celebrating our similarities

603
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,440
and not our differences wouldn't you say

604
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,279
then that some of our

605
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,760
founding fathers did have the secret

606
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,520
information that they passed on among

607
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,120
themselves

608
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:59,679
i think are following that they might

609
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:00,240
have gotten

610
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:04,159
from a higher uplifting source

611
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:11,029
i suppose in a sense

612
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:14,480
i would i would understand

613
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,600
those who called the united states

614
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:20,000
as many secret societies have the new

615
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:21,360
atlantis

616
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:25,679
or may not

617
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:29,840
ever existed i suspect some

618
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:32,960
planetary culture did exist at one time

619
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,679
but i think the ideals and the

620
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:37,520
inspiration

621
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,360
and i have to be very careful on this

622
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,279
because we'll go right back then

623
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:43,679
to what i think we should guard against

624
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:44,640
that

625
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:50,960
is enlightened and guided by god any

626
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,679
more than

627
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:54,080
one football team can claim god is on

628
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:54,720
its side

629
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,159
more than another but i think we had

630
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,720
in our early years and i think we have

631
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:01,919
always had

632
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,080
in america columbus was

633
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:09,200
columbus believed that the land he

634
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:10,159
founded

635
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:13,520
was a place where those in the last days

636
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:14,559
would come

637
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:19,039
so we as a culture and in the beginning

638
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:22,240
from the revolution to the civil war we

639
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:22,640
have

640
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:27,840
always been an times oriented society

641
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,399
uh culturally and religiously and this

642
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:31,840
has been very subtle

643
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:34,159
but but this is our entire nation you

644
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:34,880
know they

645
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:38,080
the frontier preacher we have this has

646
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,399
been

647
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:40,399
a part of our culture that isn't really

648
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:41,840
recognized today

649
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:44,960
is the foundation of of who

650
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:47,600
or what we were and what we thought we

651
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:48,480
were

652
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,840
has driven this nation and and we

653
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:52,799
struggle

654
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:55,840
between being what we think we are

655
00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,360
a true nation of god

656
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,919
under god and we see now a violent

657
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:02,799
reaction

658
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:05,919
to eliminate that concept and to

659
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,360
focus on the totally secular and i think

660
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:11,840
you know that again we have to recognize

661
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:14,159
our spiritual foundation our spiritual

662
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:14,880
awards

663
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:19,120
roots and the guidance that those true

664
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:23,039
leaders who truly tune into the source

665
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:26,880
are have left for us the footsteps to

666
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:27,360
follow

667
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:30,799
and to build this nation but it can't be

668
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,399
on superiority it has to be on the true